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Old 11-02-2008, 10:59 AM
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Will we be able to select a bookmaker first, before any results are returned? This would allow quicker access and as a bonus should place less load on your server. Currently, a huge number of results are returned, whether you want them or not. Of course, you would still need an option for "ALL", just not the default option.

Even better would be to define your full query before requesting results.
That's exactly the plan. All odds by default takes far too long
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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Excellent, looking forward to that. Got a rough timescale for implementation?
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:27 PM
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Any chance of getting the remember me functionality working?

Also the javascript popup to tell you you've logged in successfully is redundant - if you login ok you can see you've logged in OK because your details are in the LHS panel. Maybe just have the popup if your login failed instead?

I was going to post about not loading all data by default as well, great news that's your plan anyway

I would offer to help but I don't know if you trust me
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:07 PM
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Excellent, looking forward to that. Got a rough timescale for implementation?
Not sure exactly but sometime this month.
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Any chance of getting the remember me functionality working?
Does it not work for you? It works fine for me. Are you using IE or Firefox (or other)?

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Also the javascript popup to tell you you've logged in successfully is redundant - if you login ok you can see you've logged in OK because your details are in the LHS panel. Maybe just have the popup if your login failed instead?
The site was built using Joomla. My PHP skills are basic so i'd have to look into how to do this.

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I was going to post about not loading all data by default as well, great news that's your plan anyway

I would offer to help but I don't know if you trust me
Cheers. I'll get this update done and then any futher suggestions may require some help.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:22 PM
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SMK, does interwetten work at all? its in the list of bookies but I cant get any from them?
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:50 PM
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SMK, does interwetten work at all? its in the list of bookies but I cant get any from them?
It should do. I've just checked and there is nothing coming through from there. I'll have to look into this.

Also, apologies to anyone who has tried to use the site today. Looks like the scraper went down so there has been no updates. All sorted now though!
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:26 AM
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Cookies are working fine now smk, thanks.

So does joomla do all the screen scraping for you or is that done by some backend application you've written?
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:12 AM
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Cookies are working fine now smk, thanks.

So does joomla do all the screen scraping for you or is that done by some backend application you've written?
The scraping is done by an application I developed. The server that hosts the application then uploads to my external web host. The odds are displayed in Joomla through a module I wrote.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:11 AM
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I'm puzzled. I use Topbetter at home and at work.

At work: IE 8 - Performance exceptional, loads like lightning.
At home: IE 8 - Performance dreadful, unusable, locks up browser for up to 15 minutes.
At home: Firefox 3 - Performance very good, almost as fast as at work.

Anyone got any clues as to what might be going on here?
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:40 PM
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I'm puzzled. I use Topbetter at home and at work.

At work: IE 8 - Performance exceptional, loads like lightning.
At home: IE 8 - Performance dreadful, unusable, locks up browser for up to 15 minutes.
At home: Firefox 3 - Performance very good, almost as fast as at work.

Anyone got any clues as to what might be going on here?
Not sure what's going on there however, I could do with having someone with a few different setups to test the new layout so if you are interested I'll let you know when I am ready for assistance. It'll only take about 10 mins of your time.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:54 AM
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No problem. Have access to a PC and laptop at home plus other systems at work including 64-bit systems and can install any required browser.
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:14 PM
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Try again...should work fine now.

Great. Up and running again
Thanks Smk
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:10 AM
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It should do. I've just checked and there is nothing coming through from there. I'll have to look into this.

Also, apologies to anyone who has tried to use the site today. Looks like the scraper went down so there has been no updates. All sorted now though!
Still no interwetten it seems SMK, any news on this?

Cheers
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:13 PM
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Is free subscribtion is steel there? I sent 2 e-mails and no reply yet...
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:04 AM
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Dutchy, had a quick look at the interwetten issue and can't work out what the problem is. I'll have to have a re-think!


barazimba, I've added 6 months to your account.
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:16 PM
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Thanks smk77.
I can log in with a differense (no red text) but i have the same problem as users experienced before - There are no Items to display. So no narbs-arbs for me
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:39 PM
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no dramas SMK, Im just trying to bust a balance out of there and have successfully done 2/3rds of it and only a small amount to go

Pricks wont let me do a WD for MB before ive done a Bank Transfer
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:06 AM
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smk is ther any chance you can do something about the stale 1x2 prices??? They seem to last for at least 24hrs after they've been discovered, yet they're stale within 3 minutes of being discovered. They tend to flood out the real arbs.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:07 PM
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hey smk,

A 6 month free subscription seems very generous. Would love to try your service and my email should be lingering in your inbox. The odds you find phenomenal, sure you designed a winning app.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:34 PM
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hey smk,

A 6 month free subscription seems very generous. Would love to try your service and my email should be lingering in your inbox. The odds you find phenomenal, sure you designed a winning app.
Thanks. However, it's Andy you must thank for providing Top Better to the users of his site.

I'll add the access for you now.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:28 PM
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ok guys, i've updated the layout of Top Better odds.

On loading the site no odds are displayed. This improves the time it takes for the site to load up.

There are a massive 60 bookies on Top Better now.

To search for the odds select a bookie from the drop down list and click the OK button.

Any problems then let me know!
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:12 PM
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Kudos smk, a lot quicker to load now.

However is there any way to view all bookies at once like in the old layout? I thought I'd find an item for 'All' in the 'Search Bookmaker' dropdown, but can't see one... the option to view all the best arbs would be good for arb hunters.

But not that fussed either tbh. What bugs me more is the staleness of the match odds, did you manage to sort that out? As you know match odds tend to go stale within a minute or less, whereas the match odds results in topbetter where still there over 24hrs later!

Cheers.
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Kudos smk, a lot quicker to load now.

However is there any way to view all bookies at once like in the old layout? I thought I'd find an item for 'All' in the 'Search Bookmaker' dropdown, but can't see one... the option to view all the best arbs would be good for arb hunters.
I realised that I'd effectively removed the ability to do that last night after I'd logged off for the night! I'm going to see what I can do tonight!


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But not that fussed either tbh. What bugs me more is the staleness of the match odds, did you manage to sort that out? As you know match odds tend to go stale within a minute or less, whereas the match odds results in topbetter where still there over 24hrs later!

Cheers.
Not sure. It must be keeping some old odds. So, basically, lets say you've got a 2.5/2.3 in the database this market is assigned an unique id...lets say 123456. When the scraper comes to that market during the next cycle the odds are 2.2/2.3. The scraper sees that there is already a 123456 so ignores the change. It's over a year since I wrote that bit of code so need to check it and find out what it is doing!
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:12 PM